Former England second-row Dave Attwood has lifted the lid on a fiery bust-up with Owen Farrell that turned personal—over what started as a cheeky rugby league dig.
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powered by ISUZU.The 35-year-old, who called time on his career last season, opened up on the
RugbyPass Offload podcast, recalling the incident that boiled over during their England days under Stuart Lancaster and Eddie Jones. It followed a night out after a Test abroad—and things got messy.
"On the pitch, I struggle a lot with Owen Farrell. We just don't see eye to eye on a lot of things," Attwood began.
"He is the best 10 in the world, he is incredibly good, I have got enormous respect for him as a player but I get very frustrated with him watching him as a player, playing against him."
But the respect didn't stop things getting personal off the pitch.
"He hates me with a passion. Despite my earthy roots, he thinks I am a posh c***. He hates that."
The trigger? A bit of classic union versus league banter that Farrell didn’t find funny.
"I bagged rugby league once jovially. I was saying it to take the ps kind of thing, 'a bloody sport for the peasants'. He f*ing hated it and out in Italy or maybe France he fully lost the plot. He had a bit of a shout at me and went off to the toilet and I followed him."
"We all had a drink or two after the game but we didn't need to get carried away with this. I was in the urinal behind the door and he was three or four down and as I got in his dad [Andy] walked in as well, he was coaching at the time."
What happened next was something out of a sitcom.
"He was like, 'I don't want to f***ing hear it' or something like that and as he walked out he went to open the door and slam it into the back of me. There was like a stop on the floor so it hit the stop and almost clocked him back."
That was the start of the cold war between the two—never formally addressed, but always bubbling.
"We never really addressed it after that. That was where it started and it was like a drunken little bit of argy that went too far."
"He is an incredibly competitive athlete and he is also very f***ing good, he has got high standards. He is a very competitive athlete and in order to be that good, you have to flirt on the wrong side of competitive."
And it didn’t end there. The tension carried over to the pitch whenever they faced off.
"So whenever we played each other there is always some element in the game where one of us is running at the other one or we are trying to bang each other. There always seems to be an element of that to it. I am sure he is like, 'I don't even know that Dave is playing'."
Attwood’s final England appearance came in 2016, and he hung up his boots at the end of last season—but he’s clearly not forgotten that infamous post-match urinal run-in.
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Four Lions players who flopped against the Reds
Some Lions roared — others whimpered. Here's the breakdown of who boosted their Test stock and who sent it plummeting.
? Duhan Van Der Meh
When fast and loose turns into just loose.
RUCK 5.5/10:
"Van der Merwe was very suspect especially in defence with some key moments when he looked well off the pace. In attack he just looked very one dimensional and looked nowhere near his usual standard we’re used to."
Rugby Pass 5/10:"The Reds exploited his slowness to turn with some probing kicks and he was nearly made to pay for a casual one-handed gather when under pressure on his own try line.
"It took 14 minutes before he received his first pass and was largely anonymous as an attacker until the game started to break up. Nice finish for the Lions’ third try atoned for some of his backfield errors, but was overshadowed by his fellow winger Freeman."
FLO Rugby 3/10:"Firmly on the back foot for a test spot, the powerhouse Scottish winger does not look comfortable in the Lions’ system. Unlike Scotland, where his strike running ability is a key focal point, in Andy Farrell’s system, more is expected of wingers to go looking for work.
"Throw into the mix his struggles in the air, rather reckless one-handed grab of a ball behind his own line and brutally poor positioning for the Reds’ second try by Josh Flook, and it is tough to see Farrell trusting him on the big occasions. Overall, it was a fast and loose showing from van der Merwe, who did score a try, albeit it was a simple run-in."
? Hooked on a Feeling (of Meh)
Ronan Kelleher struggles to keep pace.
Mail Online 5/10:
"Had a couple of lineouts pinched as the set-piece struggled. Fumbled the ball in a promising attacking position as his Test hopes slipped."
RUCK 5/10:
"The Lions on a whole were lacklustre with their discipline especially with handling errors and Kelleher just wasn’t clicking with the Lions’ attacking pace which only added to the penalty count. Provided decent throw-ins to the lineout, which aided the Lions’ attack."
RUGBY PASS 5.5/10:
"Ireland’s hooker was certainly not the only player guilty of costly handling errors but the one that he spilt from Jones’ pass was particularly bad given it looked easier for the Lions to score. Also missed his first lineout throw and never really got going as a ball carrier. Clocked up the tackles though and can’t be faulted for his effort."
FLO RUGBY 5/10:
"Rugby’s equivalent of a mix’n’pick, Kelleher’s performance was a combination of the good and bad. Getting pressured at line-out time by the Reds’ jumpers, Kelleher’s susceptibility to overcompensating as he has done with Ireland only makes matters worse in this department.
"In open play, Kelleher was exceptional in both the carry and around the breakdown. One caveat to add was that Kelleher appeared a touch fatigued, which is unsurprising given he has played in all three matches thus far."
? Curry Lacking Flavour
England flanker looks stuck in second gear.
RUGBY PASS 5/10:
"Well below his usual world-class standards. Dropped passes and dropped off a couple of tackles, although he did link up well at times in the wide channels."
FLO RUGBY 4.5/10:
"Caught between two stools in a system that is more accustomed to a bigger six, Curry has yet to look comfortable in a role that requires constant big carries.
"Losing two balls in the first half with knock-ons and generally just lacking the impact he brings in the England set-up, it’ll be interesting to see if he gets a run at openside in the upcoming fixtures."
RUCK 5.5/10:
"Curry was, to put it simply, relatively decent. He struggled to click in attack with errors creeping in to the Englishman’s performance. In defence he was again solid he just never really had the chance to grab the headlines or impact the game in any major way."
? Stuart’s Sloppy Shift
A rough ride for the Bath tighthead.
FLO RUGBY 4/10:
"Not the outing the Bath star would’ve hoped for at scrum time. In conjunction with Porter, Stuart was pinged for a few costly penalties that relieved pressure on the Reds. In open play, Stuart routinely looked to get involved but had a few errors, namely knock-ons, when running support lines. Coughing up a sloppy penalty in the 47th minute with a high tackle summed up Stuart’s outing, which was his third penalty of the day."
RUCK 4.5/10:
"Stuart looked massively off the pace for the majority of his time on the field. Three penalties conceded and numerous mistakes at scrum time and also with ball in hand, Stuart failed to impress on any level."
RUGBY PASS 4.5/10:
"Failed in his audition for the Lions No.3 jersey despite going into the match in a rich vein of form. Gave away an early scrum penalty, handing the Reds a cheap out and also gave away a ‘coach-killer’ penalty when he illegally stripped the ball on the floor. Compounded that with a tired-looking high shot in the second half, which earned him a third penalty. Hooked after 50 minutes."
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